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The text translates to: "When they are intoxicated, the Persians tend to discuss the most serious matters; and what seems good to them in their deliberations is proposed the next day, when they are sober, by the owner of the house in which they are deliberating. And if when they are sober it still seems good to them, they put it into practice; and if it does not seem good to them, they abandon it. Likewise, what they may have provisionally deliberated when they are sober, they discuss again in a state of intoxication."

POLÍTICA Y BANQUETE: QC VII Y VII.10 Las discusiones en torno a la pertinencia de tratar temas políticos durante elbanquete se dan en el libro VII de la obra. En VII.9, ocasión simposíaca en la que seencuentran presentes Glaucias, Nicóstrato y otros comensales (que no son mencioandosporque no esbozarán opinión), la indagación versa acerca de si hablar de temas políticosdurante la bebida es una práctica exclusivamente persa o si también existe entre losgriegos ( Ὅτι βουλεύεσθαι παρὰπότον οὐχ ἧττον ἦν Ἑλληνικὸν ἢ Περσικόν). Uno de los simposiastas (no identificado en el texto) asegura que se trata de una costumbre persa, probablemente a partir de la referencia de Heródoto en el libro I de sus Historias, en donde se explaya sobre la predilección de los persas por el vino (Οἴνῳ δὲ κάρτα προσκέαται) y sobre la particularidad de su protagonismo en las decisiones políticas

The text discusses the debate about the relevance of discussing political issues during banquets, which is found in Book VII of the work. In VII.9, during a symposium in which Glaucias, Nicóstratus, and other diners are present (not because they will not outline an opinion), the inquiry revolves around whether discussing political issues during drinking is a practice exclusively Persian or if it also exists among the Greeks (Ὅτι βουλεύεσαι παρὰ πότον οὐχ ἧττον ἦν Ἑλληνκὸν ἢ Περσικόν). One of the symiasts (not identified in the text) asserts that it is a Persian custom, likely based the reference from Herodotus in Book I of his Histories, where he elaborates on the Persians' preference wine (Οἴνῳ δὲ κάρτα προκέαται) and its particular role in political decisions.